Q103055: Network DDE Fails with Floating Profile from Other Computer
Article: Q103055
Product(s): Microsoft Windows NT
Version(s): 3.1
Operating System(s):
Keyword(s): kbnetwork
Last Modified: 22-FEB-2002
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The information in this article applies to:
- Microsoft Windows NT Server version 3.1
- Microsoft Windows NT Workstation version 3.1
- Microsoft Windows NT Advanced Server, version 3.1
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SYMPTOMS
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Users who have floating or mandatory user profiles cannot receive Chat
conversations on computers other than the one on which their original profile
was created. Similarly, they will not be able to successfully create Clipbook
Viewer pages or play Hearts. If a profile is created on the computer they will
use, these applications will function on their own computer, but not on other
computers. If their initial profile is created on an administrator's computer,
these applications will not work on any computer.
CAUSE
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When Network DDE validates a conversation, it first checks to see if the DDE
share is listed as a trusted share for the user logged on to the computer
sharing the conversation. It does this by opening the following Registry subkey
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\NetDDE \DDE Trusted
Shares\DDEDBi<xxxxxxx>
where <xxxxxxx> is a serial number found in the SharesDBInstance value of
the following subkey:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\NetDDE\DDE Shares
This serial number is statistically unique on each computer and serves to tie the
Trusted Shares list to the computer on which the shares are trusted. These keys
are created during setup. For floating and mandatory profiles, the
DDEDBi<xxxxxxx> subkey will contain only the entry for the computer on
which the profile was created. When Network DDE attempts to open the
DDEDBi<xxxxxxx> subkey on other computers, the attempt fails since other
computers do not have the same serial numbers. This behavior disallows Network
DDE conversations from being established.
NOTE: You must be a member of the Users, Power Users, Server Operators, or
Administrators group in order to create Clipbook pages.
WORKAROUND
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To work around this problem, create floating profiles on the workstation that
the user is likely to work on. You can also enable Network DDE applications to
work on a particular computer by manipulating values in the Registry. You need
to copy the DDE trusted shares information from the target computer's default
profile into the user's online profile. You must have administrative privileges
on the target computer in order to perform these actions:
1. Start Registry Editor (REGEDT32.EXE) on the remote workstation or the target
computer.
2. If you logged on to the remote workstation, choose Select Computer from the
Registry menu to look at the Registry database on the target computer.
3. In the target computer's Registry database, move to the following subkey and
make a note of the subkey name that is in the form of
DDEDBi<xxxxxxxx>:
HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\NetDDE \DDE Trusted Shares
4. Select the DDEDBi<xxxxxxxx> subkey and choose Save Key from the
Registry menu, saving the file to a UNC path with the following format:
\\<computer name>\<share name>\<path>
5. Select HKEY_USERS on Local Machine and choose Load Hive from the Registry
menu. Load the floating or mandatory profile from the shared directory
indicated in the user's account under Profile Information (this is the
location that the profile is downloaded from when the user logs on). Use any
name for the key when prompted (TEST for example).
6. Under the loaded user profile (TEST), select the following subkey:
Software\Microsoft\NetDDE\DDE Trusted Shares
7. From the Edit menu, choose Add Key and enter the name you noted in step 3.
8. Select the new DDEDBi<xxxxxxx> subkey and choose Restore from the
Registry menu. When prompted, enter the same path to the saved key that you
used in step 4.
9. Use the Security Permissions command to change the new DDEDBi<xxxxxxxx>
subkey to have the same permission as the other DDEDBi<xxxxxxxx> subkey
that is next to it. Be sure to change all subkeys by choosing Replace
Permission On Existing Subkeys in the Permissions dialog box.
10. Select the root key of this hive (TEST) and choose Unload Hive from the
Registry menu.
BACKGROUND
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Clipbook, Chat, and Hearts rely upon Network DDE to operate. Network DDE is a
protocol for sending DDE messages across a network. Similar to the way in which
directories may be shared across the network, a DDE conversation can be "shared"
on the network. The Network DDE DSDM service maintains a database of shared
conversations on each computer. When you share a page in Clipbook, a Network DDE
share is created in this database. Similarly, in order for Chat to operate,
Setup creates a Network DDE share for Chat.
When a Network DDE share is accessed over a network, the shared conversation is
referenced, and appropriate security checks are made to make sure the requester
can be granted access. For some shared conversations, an application must be
running on the computer sharing the conversation--for example, any time a linked
item needs to be updated, or when a Chat conversation is started with someone.
In either case, the application that placed the information in Clipbook
(Microsoft Excel for example) or Chat must be running in order to service the
request. All applications on a computer are running in the "security context" of
the user who is interactively logged on to the computer. Therefore, when a
remote request is serviced by a running application on a computer sharing a
Network DDE conversation, the application handling the request is running in the
security context of the person logged on to the sharing computer, not in the
remote user's security context.
With this design, there is the potential for security violations. Conceivably, a
user could share a Network DDE conversation and remotely connect to it while
someone else was logged on, thus enabling the user to access the sharing
computer as if he or she were the other logged on user. To avoid this situation,
in order for a shared conversation to be used, the logged on user at the time of
use must have this shared conversation in its list of trusted shares.
When Windows NT is installed, the following Registry value
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\NetDDE \DDE Shares\SharesDBInstance
is set to a random number in order to uniquely identify the computer. The Chat$,
CLPBK$, and Hearts$ keys are also created under the following subkey:
HKEY_USERS\Default\Software\Microsoft\NetDDE \DDE Trusted
Shares\DDEDBi<xxxxxxxx>
The <xxxxxxxx> value in this key name is obtained from the random number
entered in the SharesDBInstance value, as mentioned above. When a new user logs
on or a floating or mandatory profile is created on a computer, these keys and
values are copied into the user's profile. This means that the user's profile
has all the Network DDE keys the user will need for the computer that he or she
first logs on to or that the profile is created on. However, the user does not
have similar entries for other computers that the user may log on to. When
Network DDE is asked to add a trusted share for a user, a new
DDEDBi<xxxxxxxx> key should be created. Instead, Network DDE attempts to
open this key and the attempt fails because the key does not exist.
The Trusted Shares list and the list of Network DDE shares are kept in the
Registry and in general should not be directly modified. However, to work around
this problem, it is easiest to manually patch the Registry as described in the
"Workaround" section above.
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